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I read everywhere about 4 color choices. Blue/White, Orange-red then the SE Yellow and SE Silver.

I don't think the listing is based on Colors. I believe we are looking at two separate models. Meaning a base model and an SE model X 2

The reason I say this is if you look at other Manufacturers CARB postings it lists all the different models using that power plant. For instance if you pull up the listing for Can-am (BOMBARDIER) you will see all the models using the 976 NA motor. Meaning Max, XXC, XDS XMR etc. The Can-am Max comes in 3 or 4 colors for 2016. They don't list MAX (RED) they just list the sub model. Meaning Maverick Max XRS/ XDS etc.

Anyhow based on this I think we are looking at 2 models - Maybe a 2 and 4 seat etc. Then the SE model for each....

What's everyone else's thoughts while we wait for the next crumb of info from Yamaha.
 

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I sure hope you're right! I would love to have several choices with the new engine and transmission combo.
 

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All four are 2 seats because the inertia weight is the same meaning vehicle weight is basically the same.

Two standard models with the non beadlock wheels like in the pic of the blue one and orange/red? and two LE models with beadlocks and other nice shiny things like on the yellow and silver? one to make it a Limited Edition model.

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All four are 2 seats because the inertia weight is the same meaning vehicle weight is basically the same.

Two standard models with the non beadlock wheels like in the pic of the blue one and orange/red? and two LE models with beadlocks and other nice shiny things like on the yellow and silver? one to make it a Limited Edition model.

JMHO
Dang, you're probably right :(
 

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All four are 2 seats because the inertia weight is the same meaning vehicle weight is basically the same.

Two standard models with the non beadlock wheels like in the pic of the blue one and orange/red? and two LE models with beadlocks and other nice shiny things like on the yellow and silver? one to make it a Limited Edition model.

JMHO
Inertia weight is ENGINE. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VEHICLE WEIGHT
 

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All four are 2 seats because the inertia weight is the same meaning vehicle weight is basically the same.

Two standard models with the non beadlock wheels like in the pic of the blue one and orange/red? and two LE models with beadlocks and other nice shiny things like on the yellow and silver? one to make it a Limited Edition model.

JMHO

That's what I am saying though. If the models are two standard and two SE or LE with the only difference being color then there wouldn't be 4 different tests. Atleast I wouldn't think so based on the testing of other manufactures.
 

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Hmmm I was wondering exactly what that meant. I just assumed it was curb weight.
I think it means curb weight. The reason I say that, again if you reference Can-am's units under the same testing those numbers change with each model, 2 seat, 4 seat, XMR etc. All with the same Rotax 976cc engine.

On second look, I hope not. That would mean a two seat Can-am Maverick is 100 KG lighter.
 

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Inertia weight is ENGINE. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VEHICLE WEIGHT
Not so. All you have to do is look at the CARB certifications of several different vehicles with the same engine and different weight vehicles and the inertia weights are heavier for the heavier vehicles. You disputed me on this once before and all you have to do is look it up. I am not going to post if for you. Seems like you would get tired of being proved wrong on different threads.

Ok, here is a link. Hope you are not too lazy to click on it and read it. Click on the Polaris 567 atv,sv.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2016/2016.php
 

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I think it means curb weight. The reason I say that, again if you reference Can-am's units under the same testing those numbers change with each model, 2 seat, 4 seat, XMR etc. All with the same Rotax 976cc engine.

On second look, I hope not. That would mean a two seat Can-am Maverick is 100 KG lighter.
It is not just the curb weight. They add to the curb weight with a formula which I don't know but it is based on the vehicle weight. On motorcycles I think the add is 80 kg for driver weight but I don't remember for sure the exact number.
 

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I hope thats right SoCal.... I'd love to see both a 60 and a 64 plus model. Not mention a 50 incher for all those who want or need it. That's a pretty big slice of the sport pie and I just can't see Yamaha ignoring it for too long now that they are finally coming back out to play.
I will be one of those watching for a 50" model. Probably be one of the last models to be released, but that's ok, gives me more time to save up and pay cash for it. :)
 

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It is not just the curb weight. They add to the curb weight with a formula which I don't know but it is based on the vehicle weight. On motorcycles I think the add is 80 kg for driver weight but I don't remember for sure the exact number.
Well that's interesting so it's four different machines that are the exact same weight? Well that would rule out a 60" and a 50" since the 50" would be lighter. And UNFORTUNATELY it rules out a 4 seater, if this is correct. I know you always like to be right, rockitman, but I hope you're wrong on this one. I'd sure like to see a real 4 seat competitor to Polaris. If it is some calculation of curb weight, and all weights are the same, how could there be four different machines with the exact same weight if color is not relevant in the carb classifications?
 

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Well that's interesting so it's four different machines that are the exact same weight? Well that would rule out a 60" and a 50" since the 50" would be lighter. And UNFORTUNATELY it rules out a 4 seater, if this is correct. I know you always like to be right, rockitman, but I hope you're wrong on this one. I'd sure like to see a real 4 seat competitor to Polaris. If it is some calculation of curb weight, and all weights are the same, how could there be four different machines with the exact same weight if color is not relevant in the carb classifications?
Beats me, since the Polaris machines break them down even between the EPS and non EPS on the same vehicle.
But the Viking 3 and the Viking 6 are separate filings and lots of difference in the inertia weight but they list all of the 3 seat as the same inertia weight and all of the 6 seat the same no matter the model.
I am not going to say all of the YXZ's are the same thing but they do all use the same inertia weight so it is only reasonable they would be fairly close in vehicle weight IMO.

Edit: I have to back up. The weight for the V3 EPS is listed as 10kg heavier than the non EPS.

Color is not relevant but they have to list all of the model numbers of the vehicles that are covered under the certification so if they use a different model for a different color then it has to be listed, at least that is the way I read it.

I know you always like to be right
I don't like to be wrong so I 'usually' do my research, but my interpretation is not always like everyone else's. :)
 
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