[WAYXZ]

Alba, tubeworks or barnett clutch upgrade...advice and experience please

Good morning all,

Wanting to do a clutch upgrade to my NA '19 YXZ 1000R SE but need feedback on the different set ups. Here is what i see for each.

1. ALBA- looks to be using a relabeled Barnett clutch plate and doesn't have the wet clutch hub design of the tube works

2. BARNETT- Kevlar plates but also not wet clutch hub design

3. TUBEWORKS- Wet clutch plate (12) friction plates but a significantly smaller pressure plate than the other two set ups.

Any advice, real world experience and or ball busting is welcomed.

Thanks in advance
nthego:

 

[Buck8577]

I have the barnett pressure plate with kevlar discs. I like it a lot. Still going strong after >1000 miles of abuse.

I think the TW clutch mod kit is an unnecessary gimmick. I've never seen the rationale behind what they claim. Heck, there are guys out there with several thousand miles on stock clutches. The only reason I upgraded to the Barnett was that I had the damn thing apart to do the 70/30 gear reduction. So I figured I might as well put a stouter clutch in. Otherwise I'd still be stock.

 

[Exracer2]

What ever you do , do an oil mod on the clutch wether it's tubeworks or a modified one that allows the Barnett pressure plate. Avenger motorsports in Bakersfeild can do the machine work on the hub for you.

 

[Zilla]

Did you smoke your OEM clutch? If so, the best solution is the TW oil mod as already said. For a upgrade in the clutch pack, I was told that the Alba clutch fiber discs were made to Alba's specs and that TW actually uses the Alba fibers in their kit. I think all three that you mention are all solid choices, but will all defiantly benefit from the oil mod. This is all dependent on the fact that your running a three pedal car as your sig suggests, if your in a SS then things change up a bit.

 

[WAYXZ]

I have the barnett pressure plate with kevlar discs. I like it a lot. Still going strong after >1000 miles of abuse.

I think the TW clutch mod kit is an unnecessary gimmick. I've never seen the rationale behind what they claim. Heck, there are guys out there with several thousand miles on stock clutches. The only reason I upgraded to the Barnett was that I had the damn thing apart to do the 70/30 gear reduction. So I figured I might as well put a stouter clutch in. Otherwise I'd still be stock.

I Like the Barnett for the sheer beefiness of it and Kevlar always sounds better.

 

[WAYXZ]

Thanks for the feedback.

TW seems like the most comprehensive choice as it incorporates the oil mod. My machine is a 3 pedal.....ALL DAY LONG.
I did not burn my OEM clutch but it has gotten tender on a few technical sections no slippage but I don't like the smell of a tender clutch.

I am leaning toward the TW oil mod and Barnett clutch/pressure plate kit But have not made any purchases yet

 

[Zilla]

Thanks for the feedback.

TW seems like the most comprehensive choice as it incorporates the oil mod. My machine is a 3 pedal.....ALL DAY LONG.
I did not burn my OEM clutch but it has gotten tender on a few technical sections no slippage but I don't like the smell of a tender clutch.

I am leaning toward the TW oil mod and Barnett clutch/pressure plate kit But have not made any purchases yet

That'll work! Did you ever consider a tranny cooler also?

 

[WAYXZ]

Did not consider a tranny cooler.

 

[Doomsday]

I have the barnett pressure plate with kevlar discs. I like it a lot. Still going strong after >1000 miles of abuse.

I think the TW clutch mod kit is an unnecessary gimmick. I've never seen the rationale behind what they claim. Heck, there are guys out there with several thousand miles on stock clutches. The only reason I upgraded to the Barnett was that I had the damn thing apart to do the 70/30 gear reduction. So I figured I might as well put a stouter clutch in. Otherwise I'd still be stock.

Not a gimmick at all with TW cluctch oiling mod. I've burnt my clutch previously(with200 miles on Rekluse), plates on back half plate stack pretty much dry. Since then, installed new clutch and TW clutch mod and have about 1200 miles on it. Pulled out for GYTR 70/30, plates are fine and oil getting to them. Actually, never even had clutch fibers on my filter screen since then.

 

[dans2017ssse]

Agreed. The TW oil mod with OEM Yamaha clutch. 3500 miles and going strong

 

[Exracer2]

You'll burn the oil up in the transmission without hurting the clutch pack with a tubeworks oil mod. Defentily not a gimmick .

 

[WAYXZ]

TW seems like the most legit option available. Would I need to do anything different with the tranny oil? Different type? etc?

 

[Zilla]

TW seems like the most legit option available. Would I need to do anything different with the tranny oil? Different type? etc?

No, there's no special requirements for oil with the mod.

 

[ALBANATE]

Just to clarify our fibers are not re-branded Barnett. They are our own. We do make specific thickness fibers and metals for other companies who sell clutch packages.

Nate
Alba Racing

 

[The Best]

I’m currently running, a different set up. My buddy modifies the stock basket and has a special billet insert for the center. Then he uses the Barnett clutch plate with heavier springs along with stock clutches or Barnett’s, feels freaking awesome. I have done many high Rpm take offs and I’m at 14 to 15 psi of boost. Clutch set up is holding up very good 0 issues, all this for a fraction of TW plates and basket etc. I have a brand new complete set of TW set in my garage, been there for almost a year.

 

[Ready To Ride]

Tw oil mod, alba clutch, and stacked springs. I've abused both of my 16s with stock gearing before the 19 gearing went in and they held up great With this combo. The stk clutch went after 500 miles. after the tw oil mod stacked springs and alba clutch she held strong to 3000miles that's when I did the 19 gearing and I'll be suprised if I ever have to do it again great setup.
I'm running another 16 with this same setup on a supercharger that has been extremely abused and is still going strong, just serviced the trans today and all is well.

Many others have reported the alba 6 spring pressure plate setup works great as well, I just haven't had any experience with it yet keep us posted.

 

[johng99]

Take a look at the Rekluse TorqDrive clutch.

 

[WAYXZ]

I wouldn't want a Rekluse. I prefer to shift with the third pedal.

 

[johng99]

I wouldn't want a Rekluse. I prefer to shift with the third pedal.

Rekluse TorqueDrive is a heavy duty manual clutch, not to be confused with the Rekluse EXP Autoclutch.

 

[bionicman]

I wouldn't want a Rekluse. I prefer to shift with the third pedal.

U still do use the third pedal with either Rekluse