[ranamuck]

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a Gen-2 turbo and called two dealers in Utah about installing. The place in Provo said they would not install the GYTR kit because it could blow up the motor. I just laughed and said adios.
The 2nd dealer said they've never installed one but would give it a try.
I wanted a dealer install so it's covered under warranty but I've lost confidence in these guys and I'm thinking of cancelling the extended warranty and installing the Alba kit. I'll likely need their ECU flash anyway.
Any Utah riders know of someone that could install the kit?

 

[YumaYXZ]

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a Gen-2 turbo and called two dealers in Utah about installing. The place in Provo said they would not install the GYTR kit because it could blow up the motor. I just laughed and said adios.
The 2nd dealer said they've never installed one but would give it a try.
I wanted a dealer install so it's covered under warranty but I've lost confidence in these guys and I'm thinking of cancelling the extended warranty and installing the Alba kit. I'll likely need their ECU flash anyway.
Any Utah riders know of someone that could install the kit?

A large high volume CA dealer who has installed many Gen 1 GYTRs claims that they will no longer install them.
I learned this while purchasing a take-off Gen 1
from them.
This particular kit had been problematic to them several times and they gave up, gave the customer their money back. They boxed it up and gave it to the parts dept to sell at a highly reduced price. It was for a SS model and I have a 3 pedal.
Figuring that (with the exception of the ECU) it was all hard parts and what could be wrong with it? So I bought it, had Alba flash my ECU with their stage 2.
Installed and am happy as can be with it.
Now I understand you’re talking Gen 2, but I wouldn’t hesitate to find a dealer and go for it, and I certainly would not hesitate to work with Alba as they have done me right!

 

[EddieCas]

Consider a weller turbo kit. Much more reliable for these yxz engines

 

[ranamuck]

Consider a weller turbo kit. Much more reliable for these yxz engines

How does the Weller compare? Why more reliable?

 

[Timcan5]

A dealer in Wyoming put mine in, although it was 2 years ago. No problems so far. So does that mean I have Gen 1?

 

[RobBeck]

While all of the kits out there have their own element of being great, I don't think you can beat the reliability of the GYTR kit as it literally is Yamaha endorsed for the warranty (it is absolutely a very high quality kit). Whichever kit you get if you are not capable I'd try to find someone else who is mechanically inclined in your area to do the install. The problem with some dealers is that they are racing the clock and anytime you are rushing things it is easy to overlook them too.

 

[EddieCas]

How does the Weller compare? Why more reliable?

Going with turbo

I finally made up my decision to turbocharge my 2017 instead of long travel. The suspension does amazing in the dunes and I feel that a turbo would be more beneficial. I have been doing a bit of research on different turbos from different companies. I am having trouble deciding which turbo go to...

www.yxztalk.com

Here is a link to a previous thread about this topic. Good info

 

[ranamuck]

I'm still leaning towards the GYTR kit for the quick spooling turbo and the air-to-water exchange. Heating was a huge issue on my turbo raptor; any additional cooling is a big plus. Found a good installer.

 

[leadmic]

The Weller kit will spool faster than the GYTR and almost all others. They have done a lot of R&D on their kit for the YXZ.

 

[YumaYXZ]

You’d be pleased with either. I do prefer air to water. If your needs change and the boost increases, cooling can also be increased.

 

[LittleYXZ]

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a Gen-2 turbo and called two dealers in Utah about installing. The place in Provo said they would not install the GYTR kit because it could blow up the motor. I just laughed and said adios.
The 2nd dealer said they've never installed one but would give it a try.
I wanted a dealer install so it's covered under warranty but I've lost confidence in these guys and I'm thinking of cancelling the extended warranty and installing the Alba kit. I'll likely need their ECU flash anyway.
Any Utah riders know of someone that could install the kit?

When I bought my 21 SS SE, I got it from Renegade (now Young Powersports) in Centerville, UT. I got the gen 2 turbo kit installed from them, well Packard Performance installed it but the dealer outsourced the work so I guess technically it was through the dealership.

 

[RobBeck]

The Weller kit will spool faster than the GYTR and almost all others. They have done a lot of R&D on their kit for the YXZ.

With all due respect to Weller (I think they are great people and an awesome platform vendor), but that turbo in the kit is a tiny Journal bearing TD04 (or the like) and likely is one of suspect build quality (ie. the Chinas). All said for those running sub 12 or so psi it could still last a while, but it holds no candle to a Ball Bearing Authentic Garrett GT series turbo like in the GYTR kits. The ball bearing unit in the GYTR kits will not only take a pounding but is going to be very quick with transient response (recover from throttle closing well) and also spool very well for the overall size (for the power potential).

There is absolutely zero doubt the GYTR Turbo kit dominates all others in basically every possible way (aside for price tag).

 

[sandman89]

I think the dealer meant it would "explode" with power

 

[ranamuck]

I think the dealer meant it would "explode" with power

The gen 2 kit is $6300; almost a grand over the gen 1 kit. Anyone know where to buy this kit for less?

 

[leadmic]

With all due respect to Weller (I think they are great people and an awesome platform vendor), but that turbo in the kit is a tiny Journal bearing TD04 (or the like) and likely is one of suspect build quality (ie. the Chinas). All said for those running sub 12 or so psi it could still last a while, but it holds no candle to a Ball Bearing Authentic Garrett GT series turbo like in the GYTR kits. The ball bearing unit in the GYTR kits will not only take a pounding but is going to be very quick with transient response (recover from throttle closing well) and also spool very well for the overall size (for the power potential).

There is absolutely zero doubt the GYTR Turbo kit dominates all others in basically every possible way (aside for price tag).

Go talk to George Lemont of Avid. They tested both and the Weller smoked the GYTR.

 

[RobBeck]

Go talk to George Lemont of Avid. They tested both and the Weller smoked the GYTR.

I build/upgrade turbos for a living (while for automotive it is all the same premise), and I am speaking about overall quality of the kit alongside power potential and what is going to work best with the engine and prolonging its own life (the best as possible). The Weller kit is nice and I am sure it spools good and works well, but turbo kit decisions aren't always about which spools the fastest. I do know that if I bought that kit I'd be building the turbo myself, just to get going as I'd bet almost anything it is not built too well as it is. Ultimately none of the kits out there am I completely head over heals over as they sit, but even if I'd started again today I'd still buy the GYTR (probably the v1 if I could find it) kit as my base package.

 

[YumaYXZ]

I build/upgrade turbos for a living (while for automotive it is all the same premise), and I am speaking about overall quality of the kit alongside power potential and what is going to work best with the engine and prolonging its own life (the best as possible). The Weller kit is nice and I am sure it spools good and works well, but turbo kit decisions aren't always about which spools the fastest. I do know that if I bought that kit I'd be building the turbo myself, just to get going as I'd bet almost anything it is not built too well as it is. Ultimately none of the kits out there am I completely head over heals over as they sit, but even if I'd started again today I'd still buy the GYTR (probably the v1 if I could find it) kit as my base package.

I too respect Weller but really do agree that as a base for a “buildable” or “upgradable” system, the GYTR V1 is hard to beat.

 

[yamadad]

The problem is that warranty work does not even pay for your mechanics wages. The dealership actually looses money. Yes they pay for the hours it takes but not at the wages it takes. Dealers do the work at a lose because of their contracts with the corporations. Better to avoid problems before they start.

 

[ranamuck]

Turns out there is a nationwide back order for the GYTR V2 turbo kit with no ETA. Luckily, the dealer located two in stock nationwide. Snagged one from Monroe WA, the other is in Cody WY. I wouldn't think it's a supply & demand issue as the demand is not that high for these. Strange.

 

[RobBeck]

Turns out there is a nationwide back order for the GYTR V2 turbo kit with no ETA. Luckily, the dealer located two in stock nationwide. Snagged one from Monroe WA, the other is in Cody WY. I wouldn't think it's a supply & demand issue as the demand is not that high for these. Strange.

I'd bet the demand is pretty high, wouldn't be surprised if 1 in 5 YXZ owners want one and 1 in 25 pull the trigger on it. I'd also bet there are numerous parts of the kit that are hard to get ahold of at any given moment. Lucky you were able to find one, also makes you wonder if there are any of the v1 kits still out there floating around.