[4Nines]

I've seen the new Yamaha referred to as an SS a number of times and it got me to thinking, what if SS doesn't mean Super Sport and maybe it means Single Seat? Maybe it's not even a Side-by-Side at all?!

I went back through the teaser videos and I snagged a photo that confirms this guess in my mind:



With the rear shocks being that close together could it possibly be a SXS?

 

[Deeyoh]

Why would a quad be racing against a RzrXP or Wildcat in the video's? If that was the case, it should show quad's chasing it and not sport sxs's.

 

[4Nines]

Well it wouldn't be a quad, but maybe something similar to an ACE, but all sport? What do you make of the shocks mounted so close together in the picture above?

 

[dspete05]

I see what your saying. Is it possible that it's a bigger version of the Polaris ACE? The thing is the exhaust pipe coming out the center and the reflection on the suspension on both sides of it. Boy if that's the case, people will come unglued!!

 

[dspete05]

It also doesn't seem to be a very big exhaust pipe if they're running a triple cylinder engine?!?

 

[4Nines]

It also points to a control arm suspension. I don't think that setup could run a trailing arm?

 

[jajl22]

You could buy into this as well from the perspective that they are releasing 2 models, a single seat control arm car that is trail friendly, and a 2 seat trailing arm car that is desert/dune friendly.

By looking at the reflection in the assumed exhaust tip it reminds me of a can am style control arm, it also looks like possible a sway bar link of sorts in the reflection towards bottom right and left. Who knows?

As i have read in other forums i would think having the shocks that close to the exhaust pipe would heat them up rather quickly and pose a problem with shock fade.

 

[dspete05]

I agree, as long as that reflection isn't fooling us or they're doing some kind of camera trick.

 

[jajl22]

maybe that isn't an exhaust pipe, it is a turbo blow of valve!!! jk

waiting to see these new releases is killing me I am worse then a kid on Christmas morning.

 

[Glamisfan]

I was staring at this picture yesterday and doing some thinking about it. Those shock to me look like puny 2"ers ! And I noticed that the a-arms at the bottom look like good old-fashioned a arms. So I'm ready to be disappointed with this announcement once again. Also, while the shock body is threaded which is good, it obviously has short springs on it which me leaves me to believe it's probably just single springs as opposed to dual rate springs on the shock. That would be a let down also. And then there is the third video that was released that shows what looks like a jeep body going through the desert at probably 90 miles an hour. Don't have any idea how that can relate to the side-by-side.

 

[DV8TED]

Seen this on a desert car. Seems pretty similar... Those could even be bump stops with the shocks being outboard (opposite of this pic).

 

[ls68firebird]

hey, i guessed this yesterday on the other thread. wooohooo. beat somebody to it.
"What the hell... I'll bite. This is yamaha's answer to the ACE. cage on a 4 wheeler. scale it for 12" wheels and see if it fits."

 

[Buddy hack it]

I can not see Yamaha entering the sport market with a single seater.

They pretty much need to copy the style and layout of the RZR to win market share.

I don't think the sales numbers would be any good with a single seat.

 

[jajl22]

I don't see how that suspension in the teaser trailer could equate to that vehicle in the 3rd trailer.

I am thinking single seat vehicle for trails, or just trail model with 2 seats.

In the trailer videos they specifically show open desert and sand dunes, why not post pics of the back of another model to throw people off.
Or it will just be a huge let down and i will cry myself to sleep on Sept 1st haha!

I hope it is not a huge let down but the more i look and the longer i wait, the more that idea creeps in.

Need something concrete to light the fire again

 

[zztop]

I am sure that after the Arctic cat shows their new stuff on Aug 23rd Yamaha will be putting a new video up by the next day... N will show alittle more so that we will have a better idea of what to expect... I think that they will save the best video for last... We will see

 

[dspete05]

maybe that isn't an exhaust pipe, it is a turbo blow of valve!!! jk

waiting to see these new releases is killing me I am worse then a kid on Christmas morning.

Haha, I was thinking that same thing!!

 

[Deeyoh]

Well it wouldn't be a quad, but maybe something similar to an ACE, but all sport? What do you make of the shocks mounted so close together in the picture above?

I think that picture is distorted. Someone mentioned small shock size. Well if that endcap is 5 inches and those shocks are way farther back it would appear smaller but they may be 3 inch in diameter and not as close together as you think.

 

[rockitman]

There are various ways of designing suspensions and placing shocks to get the travel and control that you want. I wouldn't place too much importance on the position of the shocks in that video as far as it determining the width or number of seats.

They are going after the RZR. That is obvious from the video's. The RZR is a two seat. A one seat vehicle of that size would have a very limited appeal except for racing. Probably 95+ % of these type vehicles are used for recreation and mostly for families or couples.

They showcase it in the desert which means long wheelbase and wide for stability with a long travel suspension.

A front-rear seat configuration would make sense for stability when you don't have a passenger but I don't think that would be a big seller either.

So, do you go with Yamaha's product development team as to configuration for more sales to the general public or do you go with the race team's desires for an advantage on the course? Or maybe the rules for sxs say the seats have to be sxs?

 

[Desertdog]

They sure have created some serious industry buzz, cuz this is all people are talking about

 

[Vital]

I've seen the new Yamaha referred to as an SS a number of times and it got me to thinking, what if SS doesn't mean Super Sport and maybe it means Single Seat? Maybe it's not even a Side-by-Side at all?!

I went back through the teaser videos and I snagged a photo that confirms this guess in my mind:

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With the rear shocks being that close together could it possibly be a SXS?

I don't see it, riding alone sucks compared to having a co-pilot. Most people move up from quads and enjoy the comradery that a sxs offers. Going to a single seat defeats the purpose IMO for the vast majority.